North Renfrew Times
August 31, 2011

Town to look at help for ski hill

by Vance Gutzman

Faced with rising insurance costs, the Mount Martin Ski Club (MMSC) has reached out to the town of Deep River for help.

But the town would be going down a slippery slope if it were to provide the club with coverage under its insurance umbrella.

That was the message handed down at town council's last meeting.

The town's chief administrative officer, Michelle Larose, stated in a report to council that MMSC representatives Ron Rogge and Steve D'Eon had requested a meeting with Mayor David Thompson regarding the costs of the club's property and liability insurance.

That meeting, with Larose also in attendance, was held on May 24, at which time it was learned that the club experienced $7,181 net loss for the 2009-10 ski season.

It's not low revenues that were the problem (the club generated $63,571 in income that year), but rather that insurance costs were high - totalling $14,681.

Town staff were asked to investigate the possibility of having the MMSC insured under the town's own insurance policy, in the hopes that some savings could be realized for the club.

As a preliminary step, Larose asked the town's insurance company (MIS Insurance) as to whether that would be possible or not, with "not" being the answer.

"Our insurance company will not insure a facility owned and operated by an outside group, this this is not an option," Larose stated in her report to council.

She went on to state, though, that were the MMSC facility to be owned and operated by the town itself, then MIS would provide coverage under the town's existing facility.

But even then, she added, the insurance company has recommended in the past, and again in a recent email to Larose that, in light of the additional risk, and potential to affect the town's liability coverage due to claims, it would be in the municipality's best interests to try to avoid such an endeavour.

Indeed, Bill Riley of MIS Insurance Services said exactly that when the question was first put to him when he met with council back in September.

"I always caution municipalities that they should not be the insurer of choice," Riley said at the time.

"Unless you absolutely have to do it, we recommend you stay away from it. You're not experienced in running ski hills."

The township of Madawaska Valley tried to lease and operate a ski hill in that municipality, Larose stated in her report, and has decided to discontinue the lease following net losses of about $75,000 over the course of its three-year lease, coupled with the added liability from operating the facility.

Should Deep River choose to enter into a lease agreement for the Mount Martin Ski Hill, the town's insurance premiums could rise by between $4,000 to $8,000, depending on whether or not any of the physical assets would need to be insured as well.

"I'm recommending we not operate the ski hill," Larose told council, adding that the ski club didn't ask the town to run the ski hill in the first place -  it just wanted to be insured under auspices of the municipality.

But, with the town's insurance company having effectively nixed that idea, Larose said the only other other way the town could help out the ski club would be in the form of a grant for its operations.

During its 2011 budget deliberations, Larose pointed out that $5,000 was added to the recreation department's budget, under charitable and non-profit grants, in order to facilitate a grant to the club, should council wish to do so, in lieu of insuring the club under the town's policy.

In each of the past two years (2009-10 and 2010-11) the MMSC has requested $3,000, and has received $1,600 and $1,850 respectively from the town.

"I caution council that there will be other groups coming to the table if we do this for the Mount Martin Ski Club," Larose told council, referring to the $5,000 that was set aside in this year's budget.

Deputy Mayor Mary MacCafferty was of the same opinion.

"You give it to one club, every club will be asking for the same amount of money," MacCafferty said.

"It's the taxpayers' money. It's very hard. I'd love to give them $5,000 but where do we stop?"

Councillor Ron Derochers, however, held a different view.

"I'm in favour of giving them a grant in lieu of getting involved," Desrochers said, adding later that any grant money should be accessed  by community groups on a first-come, first-serve basis.

“The first to ask is the first to get. We need to put money aside and see who asks for it."

For his part, Mayor Thompson said the town already does subsidize some recreational facilities, such as the arena and the pool.

"Council has historically chosen some and others have been self-supporting," Thompson said.

"They (MMSC) provide a tremendous venue. $5,000 would make a heck of a big difference."

Councillor Terry Myers, meanwhile, suggested the ski club may be   more deserving of town money in light of its current plight.

"There is a case to be made that this club is facing extraordinary circumstances," Myers said, noting that the MMSC's insurance premiums have tripled.

"That put them in a slightly different category."

Councillor Daniel Banks summed up the situation succinctly.

"The main lesson I take from this is that insurance isn't workable," Banks said, noting that the town has yet to be even asked for a grant from the MMSC.


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